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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219737577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219737577">(Dec 13 2020 at 01:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi all, this is cky here. I mostly live on Discord (cky#6493), but it's certainly quite lively here on Zulip so I thought I'd join in too. :-)</p>
<p>I strive to learn a new programming language every year, and 2020 was my year of Rust. It's been a lot of fun! (2019 was my year of Swift, and 2018 was my year of Kotlin; there are enough conceptual similarities between Rust, Swift, and Kotlin that I enjoy comparing them side by side in implementing various small projects.)</p>
<p>When I learn a language, I don't do it by halves; by the end of each year, my aim is to be well acquainted enough with the language to be able to write production-quality projects. I've been programming professionally for about 20 years (my current day job is in Ruby), so I strive to meet pretty high standards.</p>
<p>My current project is implementing a Discord bot; the current bot I use on our Discord server is written in Ruby, and the code is a bit clunky in places, so I look forward to a clean rewrite!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219737643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219737643">(Dec 13 2020 at 01:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>As an ice-breaker, what typeface do people like to code with? Seeing as Rust's website uses Fira, I thought <a href="/user_uploads/4715/KZiXPNTTD8LXLsT-SXN9WkZo/Screenshot-from-2020-12-12-19-59-14.png">I'd use Fira for all my Rust code</a> too. :-D</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219738709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219738709">(Dec 13 2020 at 01:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>A year or so ago I switched from Consolas to <a href="https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans/releases/tag/v1.7.2">Fantasque Sans Mono</a> and have never looked back.  (The newer version has ligatures, which I don't want, which is why that version.)</p>
<p>Though I've always wanted a monospace version (or at least coder variant) of <a href="https://software.sil.org/andika/">Andika</a>, which I find really elegant and use in my ebook reader.  It's designed for literacy use, with nice features like d|b that aren't mirrors of each other, so they're subtly more recognizable, and even simple letters like l have subtle detail to them.  (I'm so tired of boring geometric sans-serifs.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219739324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> phaazon <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219739324">(Dec 13 2020 at 02:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’m on JetBrains Mono NF <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219740806" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219740806">(Dec 13 2020 at 02:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Nice, I must try Andika and see how well it looks on code. Thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219740820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219740820">(Dec 13 2020 at 02:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>As regards ligatures, surely, both JetBrains products and VS Code disable ligatures by default, so you have to opt in to use it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219741290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219741290">(Dec 13 2020 at 03:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Apparently Andika is already in the Ubuntu package repository. Yay! So, is it just me, or does it look a bit like Comic Sans? <span aria-label="rolling on the floor laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f923" role="img" title="rolling on the floor laughing">:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:</span> <a href="/user_uploads/4715/L48RBRvX0cZpRO1Cl9LGCPHX/Screenshot-from-2020-12-12-22-11-04.png">Screenshot-from-2020-12-12-22-11-04.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219741442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219741442">(Dec 13 2020 at 03:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="282041">phaazon</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!/near/219739324">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I’m on JetBrains Mono NF :)</p>
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<p>I'm definitely very interested in JetBrains fonts, too bad there isn't a variable-width version of it! <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219759441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219759441">(Dec 13 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="368530">Chris Jester-Young</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!/near/219737643">said</a>:</p>
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<p>As an ice-breaker, what typeface do people like to code with?</p>
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<p>I used Fira Code (the monospace one) for a while, but recently switched to JetBrains Mono while investigating a <code>rust-analyzer</code> issue and I didn't bother to switch back.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219771083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Jester-Young <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219771083">(Dec 13 2020 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Nice! These days I tend to use monospace for work and variable-width for personal code so I get some variety, so I don't feel like I'm doing the same thing day in, day out.</p>
<p>I first learnt about variable-width code presentation from CWEB-generated documents. It blew my mind at first, but I got used to it quickly.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122652-new%20members/topic/Hello%2C%20world%21/near/219780299" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scottmcm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!.html#219780299">(Dec 13 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="368530">Chris Jester-Young</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122652-new-members/topic/Hello.2C.20world!/near/219741290">said</a>:</p>
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<p>So, is it just me, or does it look a bit like Comic Sans?</p>
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<p>Sadly, letters with nuance are so uncommon that that's one of the few other fonts that people can think of that has it.  And that's part of why many people with dyslexia like Comic Sans -- it makes it harder to confuse the letters.  Andika does the same, though IMHO more elegantly (but also more subtly).</p>
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